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Washington Women’s Heritage Project records, 1900-2000 
University of Washington Libraries Special Collections 
Geraldine George Underwood 
1981  
Cassette 1, Side 2 
 
 
Winona Weber  00:03 
Yeah, we're gonna give it a--[shifting sounds]--there we go! I want to think about your mother, 
Lizzie. And, uh, when you were a real little girl. And when you think of her, what do you see her 
doing? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  00:30 
Mostly gardening, and she had cows. 
 
Winona Weber  00:34 
Mhm.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  00:35 
Everything. And a-- Oh, she had pigs. 
 
Winona Weber  00:42 
Was she an outdoors person? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  00:44 
Practically. 
 
Winona Weber  00:45 
I really-- Oh, gee, ah! Were you raised--? Were you raised down at Tokeland or Bay Center? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  00:59 
Off and on.  
 
Winona Weber  01:00 
Uh huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  01:01 
And I went to boarding school. And I was raised by my aunt. 
 
Winona Weber  01:08 
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Which one? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  01:09 
Nellie. 
 
Winona Weber  01:13 
Nellie-- 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  01:13 
And that was my dad's aunt.  
 
Winona Weber  01:15 
Uh-huh. Where did she live then?  Oh. How much time did you spend on the reservation, then? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  01:19 
In Aberdeen, on south side. I must have been quite a bit there, around the time they sent me to 
school. 
 
Winona Weber  01:33 
Uh-huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  01:34 
I went to Catholic school. Let's see, I was brought in, uh, sixth grade and, uh.  
 
Winona Weber  01:42 
Uh-huh. What Catholic school was that?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  01:47 
St. George's in Tacoma.  
 
Winona Weber  01:49 
How did you like it? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  01:51 
Liked it very much. I learned quite a bit from-- 
 
Winona Weber  01:57 
Uh-huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  01:57 
--them. Course, I learned quite a bit from my mother, too, but... 
 
Winona Weber  01:59 
Oh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  02:05 
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But we-we were mostly outdoors kids. We never hardly stayed, you know, stayed around the 
house like kids do nowadays. We were gone. I had chores to come milk cow and I'd milk cow. 
But then we were gone until--till the time it was to eat. We were outdoors most the time. We 
swam and walked and picked berries and, you know, everything like that. You don't hardly see 
kids do that. 
 
Winona Weber  02:36 
Anymore. Oh, gee, that sounds nice.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  02:39 
But there was only one bike on the reservation. None of us knew how, and that was Dorothy's. 
 
Winona Weber  02:47 
Dorothy James? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  02:47 
James's, yeah. We didn't know how to ride bikes. She was the only one that rode a bike. She 
always had everything. 
 
Winona Weber  02:54 
Oh, really? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  02:55 
It didn't really bother us. [Laughs.] 
 
Winona Weber  02:58 
Oh. You didn't miss it, huh? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  03:00 
No. Cause we were always gone swimming or up in the hills or something. 
 
Winona Weber  03:07 
Oh, that must be nice. That was down at-- That was done at Tokeland? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  03:11 
Mhm [affirmative]. 
 
Winona Weber  03:12 
Did you spend much time at Bay Center?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  03:15 
Not very much. 
 
Winona Weber  03:16 
Oh, I see.  
 
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Geraldine George Underwood  03:17 
Cause we were brought, when I was really young, we were brought across the--across the bay. 
 
Winona Weber  03:22 
Mhm. Did you spend any time in the school there at Tokeland?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  03:30 
Yes. We used to have to walk to school. 
 
Winona Weber  03:32 
Uh-huh. I never really--[recorder clicks]. Talk a little bit about Nellie or Ellie. Whatever her 
name is [chuckles].  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  03:45 
Nellie, my aunt?  
 
Winona Weber  03:46 
Nellie, okay. And you said she lived in Aberdeen? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  03:51 
South side Aberdeen.  
 
Winona Weber  03:52 
South Aberdeen. What was she like? I never-- 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  03:57 
She was a nice person.  I mean, you know, except for-- She didn't really-- We had to be really 
strict and clean. If we come in dirty. I mean, she was just wanted spick and span first. 
[Chuckles.] 
 
Winona Weber  04:10 
Oh! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  04:12 
Went out and got dirty, we used to have to go to the garage and change or, you know, sneak 
round change our clothes. [They laugh.] 
 
Winona Weber  04:20 
She was really strict about being clean.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  04:22 
Yes, because she never did have any children of her own, and she was always by herself with her 
husband. His name was Albert Leslie.  
 
Winona Weber  04:32 
Uh-huh.  
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Geraldine George Underwood  04:32 
Of course, he was gone most of the time.  
 
Winona Weber  04:34 
Oh, really! What did he do?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  04:36 
He was a sawyer in camp, and part of the time, he didn't come back.  
 
Winona Weber  04:40 
Oh! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  04:41 
I never knew what [inaudible]. But Melvin and I stayed there.  
 
Winona Weber  04:50 
You got fish eggs here on your table. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  04:52 
Oh, I know. I just got done filleting out those fish [laughs]. 
 
Winona Weber  04:56 
Oh, I see. Maybe someone left them. Was Nellie a--um--a traditional type of Indian woman, or 
was she-- 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  05:09 
Not that I really know of. I don't really know, and, just, we did what she said and that was it, I 
mean [trails off]. 
 
Winona Weber  05:09 
Mhm.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  05:20 
Bird's getting restless. [Winona chuckles.] At least she isn't chirping, or anything. I think she 
usually is [they laugh quietly]. Was going to put her outside is before you guys came. 
 
Winona Weber  05:31 
Yeah. Well, who else would stay with your-with your aunt besides you? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  05:38 
Just my dad. And Melvin and I and her-- 
 
Winona Weber  05:44 
Uh-huh.  
 
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Geraldine George Underwood  05:44 
So. 
 
Winona Weber  05:47 
Did you, uh-- Did she go in for the, um, basketry and that type of thing? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  05:58 
No. Before she-- I guess before she got married, she was a cook. 
 
Winona Weber  06:05 
Uh-huh. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  06:05 
At a restaurant, supposedly, in town someplace, I gue-- I don't know if she was a wonderful 
cook, anyway [chuckles]. 
 
Winona Weber  06:11 
Good person to live with! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  06:12 
Yes! [Laughs.] 
 
Winona Weber  06:18 
Well, what school would you come from when you went to visit her? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  06:22 
From St. George.  I know! [Breathy chuckle.] 
 
Winona Weber  06:27 
Oh, I see. [Inaudible cross talk.] Okay, then--then you'd go on down to-to Tokeland, and--and-- 
Did you have to stay at St. George's all winter or something?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  06:42 
Yes, we went to school there.  
 
Winona Weber  06:49 
Uh-huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  06:49 
I went to school there for three years. 
 
Winona Weber  06:52 
Oh! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  06:52 
Mhm.  
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Winona Weber  06:57 
Something in my eye, and I just can't get rid of it. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:00 
I have my [inaudible].  
 
Winona Weber  07:01 
Oh, gee. What about your mother? Um-- Did she go in much for the more traditional Indian way 
of life? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:20 
Yes. Did everything.  
 
Winona Weber  07:22 
Mhm. What do you mean everything?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:24 
Well, she made flowers and she made baskets, she's-- 
 
Winona Weber  07:28 
She made flowers? I don't understand that. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:31 
Like make flowers out of crepe paper. 
 
Winona Weber  07:34 
Oh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:34 
And she'd go around sound for Memorial Day, or, you know, every-- 
 
Winona Weber  07:39 
Oh! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:39 
You know, something like this-- 
 
Winona Weber  07:41 
Uh-huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:42 
Or wreaths or something new like that. 
 
Winona Weber  07:45 
Hm! And she made baskets. 
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Geraldine George Underwood  07:48 
She made baskets.  
 
Winona Weber  07:50 
Did she ever try to teach you how to make baskets?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:53 
I wasn't interested. [Laughs.] 
 
Winona Weber  07:55 
Oh, really?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:56 
God, no-- 
 
Winona Weber  07:57 
Couldn't care less. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  07:59 
--care less about it. [Laughing still.] [Inaudible] which I wished I would have learned, but I could 
have, if I wanted to, I guess, but I just soon be outside someplace [chuckles].  
 
Winona Weber  08:17 
So she must have been cooking on the old woodstoves back then.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  08:21 
Oh, yeah. Years ago, they did. 
 
Winona Weber  08:25 
When you get up in the morning, would your mother be making you breakfast? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  08:28 
Well, we always had a good breakfast. 
 
Winona Weber  08:30 
Uh-huh, like what would you have? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  08:31 
She had cows. Well, we'd have fried bread, or, you know, and pure cream and mush and eggs. 
She had chickens, and we had boiled eggs. I got tired eating chicken, though, I used to have a 
great big dog. His name was Chief. 
 
Winona Weber  08:53 
Uh-huh. 
 
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Geraldine George Underwood  08:53 
So he'd be sitting--he always set right alongside of me. [Laughs.] Yeah. Feed him chicken. [They 
laugh.] Mother'd scream at me and holler and she'd hear Chief, and I just sat on his foot like this 
[laughing].  
 
Winona Weber  09:17 
Poor dog! [Laughing.] 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  09:17 
Well, he was bigger than I am and [?flop?] clean across! [Laughing.]  
 
Winona Weber  09:28 
After-after breakfast, were you--? Let's see-- me and Rachel, and-- were you expected to get up 
and do the dishes and help clean up the kitchen? Whatever?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  09:40 
Most of the time, we were, but most of the times, it was summertime, like I said, I didn't spend 
much time there with my mother. 
 
Winona Weber  09:47 
Mhm.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  09:47 
I'd go out and weed the garden or something. Somebody else would do the dishes, and we just 
went and got done with our chores. I used to have to get up about six to go milk cow, so-- 
 
Winona Weber  10:00 
Yeah. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  10:03 
Cow, Rachel was scared of it, and it knew it. It did it, and if I wasn't there, Rachel would have to 
put the kickers on her, cause she's--[laughs]--I don't know whether she still remembers that or 
not, but I think she probably does. [They laugh.] 
 
Winona Weber  10:23 
She went over it very lightly on her tape. Very lightly. [They laugh.] She didn't talk very much 
about the cow. She talked about the goat. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  10:31 
Yeah, we had a goat, it was really mean [they laugh].  
 
Winona Weber  10:34 
Uh-huh. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  10:39 
 It didn't like Harold. I don't know, maybe Harold poked sticks at it. 
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Winona Weber  10:43 
Who was Harold? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  10:44 
Harold Hawks. He lived with us most of the time.  
 
Winona Weber  10:48 
Oh, really? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  10:50 
Yeah. He was with us. 
 
Winona Weber  10:54 
Was he a relation to you? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  10:55 
He was my cousin.  
 
Winona Weber  10:57 
Okay. I've talked to different people about--about, you know, cousins. You see someone, and-- 
everybody's your cousin. What-what were you taught when you were little about-about cousins? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  11:27 
I don't know, I didn't really pay too much attention [laughs]. We knew when we were related. 
My grandfather come-- 
 
Winona Weber  11:36 
Uh-huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  11:39 
Otherwise I didn't pay too much attention. After I grew up, I knew who all my cousins were and 
everything, but-- 
 
Winona Weber  11:46 
Mhm.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  11:50 
No. I know I taught my kids, you know, when they were growing up, I taught them. Because we 
lived in such out-of-way place that hardly-- I mean, like in Tokeland, we'd have-only have 
visitors that were so, you know, [inaudible]. We knew who was coming, or you know, that was 
always our cousins, or-- 
 
Winona Weber  12:12 
Mm.  
 
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Geraldine George Underwood  12:15 
Our grandfather, [?Me-Ah? ?Ma-Tote?], you know, from Taholah here, [inaudible]. 
 
Winona Weber  12:23 
When, um-- I was just trying to think about-- What were you told-- Some of the rules, you know, 
things that you were told how to act, like when a cousin would come. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  12:44 
You mean a cousin or grandfather, whatnot, well we would, we have just go out and play if we 
were kids. 
 
Winona Weber  12:51 
Mhm.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  12:51 
Was following [inaudible]. Played, and then when we were called in to eat, we always came and 
ate.  
 
Winona Weber  12:58 
Were you sent out to play when adults would come in? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  13:01 
Most the time, we were gone. [Laughs.] 
 
Winona Weber  13:04 
Yeah.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  13:06 
We never come in or stared around, or my mother'd just look at us, and we'd go [laughs], I mean 
[inaudible]. We never sat around and listened to them unless we were told to sit. 
 
Winona Weber  13:20 
Yeah.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  13:20 
You know, like in the evening, [?Me-Ah? ?Ma-Tote?] liked to tell us stories, you know, ghost 
stories, and Dee-Dee and I were scared to go to bed [laughs]. Tell you about-- we used to always 
go and make [?camp?], and Johnny--[breaks into laughter]. 
 
Winona Weber  13:36 
What [also laughing]? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  13:38 
Well, we always used to have to go outside, you know, Dee-Dee and I were so crazy. Anyway, 
we're never scared of dark, and we'd have to take into the toilet, and then we'd go, we sneak in 
and then we'd throws that [inaudible]. We'd always get in the--[they laugh].  
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Winona Weber  13:54 
Oh, gee! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  13:55 
He was scared of the dark, and we would [laughs]. We were so crazy, we scared him [breaking 
into laughter again].  He was scared of the dark. I don't know, seem like a lot of kids are now 
scared of the dark, I don't know why.  
 
Winona Weber  14:14 
There's things out in the dark sometimes to be scared of [?at night?]. Like where I live in Seattle, 
it's bad. [Phone rings.] 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  14:20 
Oh, yeah. [Shuffling, recording stops and starts again.] 
 
Winona Weber  14:24 
What did you-- What would you have for, say, dinner? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  14:28 
Oh, most the time, we just packed our own little lunch and left. 
 
Winona Weber  14:36 
Uh-huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  14:37 
Taking--my mother made homemade bread--we just grabbed some biscuits and take off, and 
then, you know if we got hungry out on the beach, we'd go dig some mud clams and boil them 
up in a can and eat them that way [chuckles]. 
 
Winona Weber  14:50 
Sounds pretty good to me. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  14:52 
But our supper was a big supper. I mean, we all had to sit around the table, and our supper was 
big. [Shifting, creaking sound.] Click [chuckles].  
 
Winona Weber  14:54 
Uh-huh. [Laughs.] Oh no, I [inaudible] splinter.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  15:04 
Oh, we really had, you know, a great big supper, that was our main meal.  
 
Winona Weber  15:09 
Like, what would you have for a typical supper in summer? 
 
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Geraldine George Underwood  15:13 
In the summertime, most the time it would be baked chicken, or [inaudible]-- 
 
Winona Weber  15:17 
Lot of chicken. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  15:18 
We had a lot of chicken or clams or clam chowder or, you know, and we had cottage cheese, we 
had a lot of cottage cheese. 
 
Winona Weber  15:29 
Did your mom make her own cottage cheese? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  15:31 
She had her own cow.  
 
Winona Weber  15:33 
Yeah.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  15:34 
So she made her own-- we had our own butter. Course, there were times when, you know, gave 
most--they--she sold some and she gave most of it away 'cause we never had no refrigerator, or 
no way to keep butter.  
 
Winona Weber  15:49 
Mhm.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  15:52 
She said [inaudible].  
 
Winona Weber  15:55 
Sounds like she made a little extra money, you know.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  16:00 
Tell you one thing, money, we didn't worry about money. 
 
Winona Weber  16:03 
Yeah? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  16:04 
[Laughs.] I mean a penny was the penny them days. We had penny candy, we were p--[Laughs]. 
 
Winona Weber  16:11 
It was good, I know.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  16:15 
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Nowadays, kids-- can't give 'em a penny, they gotta have a dollar [laughs], or else you can't buy 
anything. 
 
Winona Weber  16:27 
Was your mother pretty strict with-with you and Rachel? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  16:31 
No. [Inaudible] easygoing. Of course, if she gives us a look, well we know what--you know, we 
were [?doomed?]. [Laughs.] 
 
Winona Weber  16:31 
Did she ever spank you? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  16:46 
Not that I know of. If she did, I would have known. [Chuckles.] 
 
Winona Weber  16:49 
Yeah. What about your dad? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  16:54 
My dad was very easygoing. 
 
Winona Weber  16:56 
Mhm. Did he give you any looks if you--?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  17:01 
No. Unh-uh [negative]. But if he was-- I mean, you know, if he was kind of disgusted with 
something, he'd go somewhere--outside, or, you know, but not [chuckles].  
 
Winona Weber  17:16 
I don't know. Mostly was my dad was the one doing the spanking. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  17:21 
Oh, ah? 
 
Winona Weber  17:22 
My mom was always--is always--has always been really easygoing, you know? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  17:26 
Yeah. That's the way I am. Like Gerald says, I beat him. Poor thing. [They laugh.] 
 
Winona Weber  17:33 
You beat him? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  17:34 
Oh, yes-- 
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Winona Weber  17:35 
Oh, gee.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  17:35 
If I ever beat him, I'd-- I never had time to beat my kids. I was--I mean, you know, I got up to go 
to work and sometimes they were still in bed, and--and they were-- Their grandfather practically 
raised them and Rachel.  
 
Winona Weber  17:54 
Uh-huh. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  17:54 
You know, so.  
 
Winona Weber  17:55 
No, I-I don't know, [inaudible].  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  17:57 
They would just get up, and I would. But I never had time, why they were either sleep--when I 
got home--when I got home, I only had little time with them, they were in bed again, so 
[inaudible]. [Dull clanking sound. Chuckles.] I know--I don't know what's the matter with that 
clock. It used to go "ching," now it's [clanking sound]. Maybe it's got a sore throat like me! 
[They laugh.] 
 
Winona Weber  18:24 
Give it a little [inaudible].   
 
Geraldine George Underwood  18:25 
Yep! Or a drink of water. But our lights were out here for two whole days, you know, we didn't 
have-- 
 
Winona Weber  18:34 
Oh, really? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  18:35 
About two and six hours, two days and six hours, there ain't no lights here. I just start something 
on the Coleman stove and then put it on my big stove over the, you know, the fire. Let it cook. 
 
Winona Weber  18:55 
When you were raising your kids and working at the cannery, where were you living? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  19:00 
Where did I live? I lived with my dad at South side-- 
 
Winona Weber  19:03 
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Aberdeen.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  19:06 
Mhm. But then, in summertime, if I was gone--like, I worked in Oregon, and I worked in 
California and Seattle--well, I left them down there with Rachel. She took care of them in the 
summertime. So they were practically brought up in Shoalwater, too. [Laughs.] 
 
Winona Weber  19:23 
Yeah, lot of time in Shoalwater.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  19:26 
Mhm. We spent a lot of time there. 
 
Winona Weber  19:28 
What did you do in California? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  19:30 
I [?shipped?] crab, filleted out fish. 
 
Winona Weber  19:34 
Huh! Way out there! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  19:36 
Well--remember this is [?Crescent City?]. 
 
Winona Weber  19:39 
Uh-huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  19:39 
They have quite a bit of [inaudible]. 
 
Winona Weber  19:40 
Oh, I didn't know that.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  19:41 
Oh, yeah. They have a big-- 
 
Winona Weber  19:51 
Was your dad, um, retired--Well, he used to fish, wasn't that? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  19:55 
Yes.  
 
Winona Weber  19:56 
Wasn't he--was he retired when he'd take care of your kids? 
 
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Geraldine George Underwood  20:01 
Wintertime. 
 
Winona Weber  20:03 
Oh! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  20:03 
Cause they never-- He never fished in the wintertime. Years ago, I guess he crab fished, but he 
wouldn't crab fish anymore. He was home most of the time.  
 
Winona Weber  20:16 
I see. How old were you when--when--when Aunt Lizzie and-and Pop got a divorce? Didn't they 
get divorced?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  20:35 
Yes, they got a divorce. Must've been about ten? 
 
Winona Weber  20:43 
You were about ten? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  20:48 
Ten, mhm. [Inaudible.] 
 
Winona Weber  20:51 
How did you split your time between the two of them? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  20:55 
I've never hardly seen my dad, and-- 
 
Winona Weber  20:58 
Uh-huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  20:58 
--when we'd visit--visit my mother, that's when I seen her, but-- Knew her when we were 
younger.  
 
Winona Weber  21:06 
Hmm! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  21:10 
See, my mother died when I--when I was fourteen. 
 
Winona Weber  21:13 
Yeah.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  21:14 
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I was fourteen years old when she died. 
 
Winona Weber  21:17 
Where did you go after your mother died? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  21:20 
I told you, my dad took us to--[laughs]. 
 
Winona Weber  21:22 
Okay, your dad took you. [Cross talk.] Okay, I didn't understand the way you said that. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  21:28 
Yeah, because there was [inaudible], she only kept Stanley, the youngest. 
 
Winona Weber  21:35 
Oh, really? Hmm. [Faint voices outside.] I can hear him out there, barking orders. [Laughs.] 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  21:43 
Sounds like me [snorts]. [?Aaron?] last night, [chuckles], he got mad at me because he wanted to 
make some of this--oh, what do you call it with marshmallows? 
 
Winona Weber  22:00 
Oh, yeah? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  22:01 
You know, those crispy things-- 
 
Winona Weber  22:03 
Yeah.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  22:05 
And I don't-- I want to lay here and I don't want to be making any of that. They just got back 
from the show and I said, "Anyway it's time to lay down and go to bed and go to sleep. Besides 
my throat is--" [Chuckles.] He told me I didn't do that with my throat. [They laugh.] I wanted to 
laugh, but I was getting mad! [Cross talk.] Goodness sakes, you must have ate at the-- 
 
Winona Weber  22:37 
Show.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  22:37 
--you know, the show and why do you want to be making it? Well, put it in the [re]frigerator for 
tomorrow. We'll make it tomorrow.  
 
Winona Weber  22:44 
Make it tomorrow, really. [They laugh.] Oh, gee. Did you go to Chemawa with Mom?  
 
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Geraldine George Underwood  22:51 
No, I never went to Chemawa. I stayed with Rachel here, and I went to Moclips for two years 
after I graduated from St George's. I stayed with her down in Taholah.  
 
Winona Weber  23:05 
Uh-huh. How did you like it at Moclips? I didn't-- 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:10 
It was all right. 
 
Winona Weber  23:13 
Uh-huh. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:13 
Marian Law and I went to school together.  
 
Winona Weber  23:16 
Who? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:17 
Marian Law. 
 
Winona Weber  23:19 
Oh, Marian Law.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:20 
Mhm.  
 
Winona Weber  23:20 
I couldn't--I thought you said Mary in-law. 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:23 
Oh, my. [?Her hood ache?] [They laugh.] 
 
Winona Weber  23:30 
Were you very active in sports or anything when you were at Moclips? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:35 
Not very much. 
 
Winona Weber  23:36 
Uh-huh.  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:37 
But down here we played for--we had our own team here. 
 
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Winona Weber  23:40 
Oh yeah, what kind? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:42 
Basketball [murmurs, then clears her throat]. 
 
Winona Weber  23:46 
There you go. Um, was--well, was it a tribal team? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:53 
Mostly Indians.  
 
Winona Weber  23:53 
The girls. Who would--who would you play? What would you do?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  23:59 
Basketball? 
 
Winona Weber  24:00 
Yeah. Who would you--who would you play against? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  24:03 
[Inaudible].  
 
Winona Weber  24:03 
Mm. Did you travel much for this? 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  24:09 
No, we'd just have a game every so often.  
 
Winona Weber  24:13 
Oh, that must've been fun. Why did you drop out of school at tenth grade, or after the tenth 
grade, or whatever?  
 
Geraldine George Underwood  24:19 
Well I was pregnant [chuckles].  
 
Winona Weber  24:20 
Oh! 
 
Geraldine George Underwood  24:23 
Then I got married, so.  
 
Winona Weber  24:25 
Oh! [Inaudible.] Who, um-- Oh, let's see. What was Rachel doing at Taholah? 
 
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Geraldine George Underwood  24:50 
[?John Doe?] fished there. 
 
Winona Weber  24:54 
Oh. [Inaudible.] Oh. [Recorder shuffles, then clicks off.] 
 